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- From: Max Vittrup Jensen <max AT permalot.org>
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- Subject: [Ekodum] Re:zabudovana energie v pasiv. domech
- Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:09:22 +0200
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Zdravim Vita, Pardon, vyzkum jeste ne v stranka Aalborg University, a nasi stranka bude renovat tento mesic...ale bude...bude! Tec byl poslal pro tebe. Prava titulku pro vyzkum je: Gonthier-Gignac, F & Jensen, M.V. Environmental impacts of passive houses -A comparative analysis of life cycle estimated costs and environmental impacts of two different approaches to 'Passive House' construction. Dpt. of Development and Planning, Faculty of Engineering and Science, Aalborg University 2007 Thormark, C. 2001. A low energy building in a life cycle—its embodied energy, energy need for operation and recycling potential. Department of Building Science, Lund Institute of Technology. 2001 Yohanis, Y.G. & B. Norton. 1999. Life-cycle operational and embodied energy for a generic single-story office building in the UK, Energy 27 (2002) 77–92 . Bude napsat vic zitra (manjelka bude doma pro pomoc cestina!), ale pro otazka "Co tedy znamen: society pay the bill for the additional embodied energy"? Quarrying, fabrication, distribution (import) and demolition/disposal of heavy energy materials such as concrete, steel, Rockwool, prefabricated wood articles such as OSB and laminates all consist of enormous environmental costs which are not paid by the owner of the PassivHaus. Our economy is based on subsidized oil (Who pays for the Iraq oil war? Not the Concrete companies and Rockwool corp. Not the owner of the Passivhaus!) and the environmental costs are saved for future generations... (if we are able to produce any, as our low sperm counts is a direct consequence of our pollution!). ...and what about the right for future generations to have oil? Simply put: Yes, German Passivhaus standards saves energy costs during the life span of the house. No, it does not save energy for the society, when LCA including disposal are viewed (50 year lifespan) Yes, it is an attractive way for some architects, engineers and homeowners to feel they do the right thing. No, it is not easy to look in-depth and go against the marketing forces. Yes, it is easy to make a passive house which also is good for society as well as the owner. Look at progressive architecture www.atelierwernerschmidt.ch or a more pragmatic approac: www.strohhaus.de (But, yes for Czech Architects/Engineers to learn this they do have to be able to learn from abroad). ...a ja bude velmi rad sdruzeni pro eko domy muslimte o cely proces, ne jenom co je popularni tec.... Zdravim, Max Vittrup Jensen Prirodni stavitel, Human Ekolog...a student Environmental Management! ...a zaulaty (concerned) otec... Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:59:49 +0200 From: "Vita Vydra" <vitavydra AT seznam.cz> Subject: [Ekodum] Re:zabudovana energie v pasiv. domech Zdrav�m Maxi! Snad mohu �esky: je ten tvou zmi�ovan� v�zkum n�kde k nahl�dnut�? P�inejmen��m z �ist� energetick�ho hlediska to mysl�m nen� pravda: sou�et zabudovan� energie + energie na vyt�p�n� kles� i u polystyrenu (co� je materi�l s n�jv�t�� zabudovanou energi�) a� do tlou��ky izolace 40 cm (p�i uva�ov�n� �ivotnosti 30 let), resp. a� do 50 cm p�i �ivotnosti 50 let. A� do tlou��ky 20 cm je glasswool (0,035) dokonce energeticky v�hodn�j�� ne� ov�� vlna, v�hoda n�zk� zabudovan� energie se projevuje a� p�i v�t��ch tlou��k�ch... Co tedy znamen�, �e "the society pay the bill for the additional embodied energy" |
- [Ekodum] Re:zabudovana energie v pasiv. domech, Vita Vydra, 04/19/2008
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- [Ekodum] Re:zabudovana energie v pasiv. domech, Max Vittrup Jensen, 04/19/2008
- Re: [Ekodum] Re:zabudovana energie v pasiv. domech, Karel Srdečný, 04/21/2008
- Re: [Ekodum] Re:zabudovana energie v pasiv. domech, Vita Vydra, 04/21/2008
- Re: [Ekodum] Re:zabudovana energie v pasiv. domech, Karel Srdečný, 04/22/2008
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