Re: [Ekodum] Kompostovací WC

[Jan Lörincz <lorijan11 AT gmail.com>]

Ahojte, čtu tuto diskuzi a zajímalo by mě, jak je to s velikostí
plochy kořenové čističky na osobu, když se do čističky vypouští pouze
šedá voda (sprcha, dřez,pračka, moč). U normálních kořenovek
napojených na tříkomorový septik šedá i černá voda ) je to tuším kolem
5-6m2. Díky za odpověď Jan

2011/1/5, David Mach <dejva AT centrum.cz>:
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> Hi,
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> for that lots of work it is very low price, you are completely right. Maybe
> I should call him once more and discuss what I need from him (only project
> with stamp for officers, the rest is not problem to handle by myself). Hm,
> CR has very poor quality of law and officers, they often make problems and
> very non-logical statements.. Sometimes there are some rare and endangered
> species of Officer, who has good quality brain in head and it is pleasure to
> meet him/her.
> I wish you to proceed with this as fast and smooth as possible.
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> Thanks
>
> David
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>> Od: "Max Vittrup Jensen" <max AT permalot.org>
>> Komu: Ekologické stavebnictví <ekodum AT fsv.cvut.cz>
>> Datum: 05.01.2011 10:36
>> Předmět: Re: [Ekodum] Kompostovací WC
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> Ahoj,
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> Yes, 10.000 kc is a lot when we don't have them, but here's a
> little explanation about the fee from one of his clients:
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> Ing. Jaroslav Krsnak has now been involved in getting our permit
> for more than 1,8 years. He has had to pay a hydro-geolog, been
> here for several visits, among other to try to make the old
> neighbour woman understand that the reed-bed system is not
> dangerous to her drinking water, he has been dealing with numerous
> requests by the local building and water authority, and he has
> redrawn the system to not include black water.
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> -It turned out that the rules in C.R. are more crazy than in any
> other European countries (Shouldn't come as a surprise; I've been
> here 11 years!), that if the reed-bed cleaning system also cleans
> black water, then the water can not be used in the garden, which
> is a central issue which we want to demonstrate.
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> Our process has been extra long as the neighbor complained to
> Olomouc Kraj (who took their time). The Kraj said the project was
> OK, but that the Litovel building office had made a formal mistake
> (again), so the whole process had to be redone. Then the neighbor
> asked to have their own Hydro-Geolog statement, which again meant
> that Krsnak and his hydro geologist had to comment on it....and
> we're still waiting for a reply, and for 2nd year not having a
> functioning system!
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> Add to this the time Krsnak has to spend on knowing the laws, his
> office rent, communication costs...
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> All in all I can't complain about the price of the project.
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> Zdravim,
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> Ing. Max Vittrup Jensen
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> "Jen-Sen: Make it Reality"
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> Consultancy in sustainable engineering, planning and environment
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> 585 15 20 10 - www.jen-sen.cz
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> PermaLot Centre of Natural Building
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> www.permalot.org
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> Czech Republic
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> On 05/01/2011 09:32, David Mach wrote:
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> Hello Max,
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> Thanks for your reply. Next week I plan to visit our Building Authority and
> WaterSupplement Authority, so I will see how they looks on this and it they
> even know that Composting toilets do exist.
> I will ask them also about Reedbed cleaning system, what conditions for
> building such system they have.
> About half year ago I contacted Mr. Krsnak about Septik, but he said that
> project for Septic will cost about 10 000Kč, this is bloody expensive for
> me.
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> Cheers
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> David
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> Od: "Max Vittrup Jensen" <Max AT permalot.org>
> Komu: Ekologické stavebnictví <ekodum AT fsv.cvut.cz>
> Datum: 18.12.2010 11:04
> Předmět: Re: [Ekodum] Kompostovací WC
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> Ahoj David,
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> Only question we have ever received from building office is about which
> type/brand of composting toilet it is.
> I suggest you simply write a company name and website in your project, and
> you should be fine, even if you make your own bucket system afterwards.
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> This said, it is important to show in the building project a good solution
> for the grey water, either a zumpa, septik or korenovky.
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> Jarda Krsnak from jamiprojekt.cz can make this for you.
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> Zdravim,
> Max
> PermaLot Centre of Natural Building
> www.permalot.org
> www.permamax.blogspot.com
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> 2010/12/18 David Mach <machdavid AT centrum.cz>
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> Ahoj,
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> jelikož jsem v posledních dnech narazil na kompostovací WC, zajímalo by mě,
> jak je to se zákony - zda když použiji kompostovací WC, samovýrobu, tzv.
> "Kbelík v truhle", kde se to vždy po vykonání potřeby zasype trochou pilin a
> po naplnění kýble vysype na kompost (asi bych tam přidal i separátor moči,
> ale to bych viděl), je jeho použití v pořádku vzhledem ke kolaudaci?
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> Nepoužil bych tedy žumpu, jen toto kompostovací WC a moč, pokud bych tam
> udělal separátor, by šla spolu s ostatními vodami "šedé vody" do nějaké
> rákosové nebo kořenové malé čističky.
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> Potřebuju na to nějaké speciální projekty nebo certifikáty? Nějak se mi
> nedaří nic pořádného k tomu na internetu najít..
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> Děkuji
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> David
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