Re: [Ekodum] Kompostovací WC

[David Mach <dejva AT centrum.cz>]

Hi,

for that lots of work it is very low price, you are completely right. Maybe I 
should call him once more and discuss what I need from him (only project with 
stamp for officers, the rest is not problem to handle by myself). Hm, CR has 
very poor quality of law and officers, they often make problems and very 
non-logical statements.. Sometimes there are some rare and endangered species 
of Officer, who has good quality brain in head and it is pleasure to meet 
him/her. 
I wish you to proceed with this as fast and smooth as possible.

Thanks

David

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> Od: "Max Vittrup Jensen" <max AT permalot.org>
> Komu: Ekologické stavebnictví <ekodum AT fsv.cvut.cz>
> Datum: 05.01.2011 10:36
> Předmět: Re: [Ekodum] Kompostovací WC
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Ahoj,
>
>
Yes, 10.000 kc is a lot when we don't have them, but here's a
little explanation about the fee from one of his clients:
>
Ing. Jaroslav Krsnak has now been involved in getting our permit
for more than 1,8 years. He has had to pay a hydro-geolog, been
here for several visits, among other to try to make the old
neighbour woman understand that the reed-bed system is not
dangerous to her drinking water, he has been dealing with numerous
requests by the local building and water authority, and he has
redrawn the system to not include black water.
>
-It turned out that the rules in C.R. are more crazy than in any
other European countries (Shouldn't come as a surprise; I've been
here 11 years!), that if the reed-bed cleaning system also cleans
black water, then the water can not be used in the garden, which
is a central issue which we want to demonstrate.
>
Our process has been extra long as the neighbor complained to
Olomouc Kraj (who took their time). The Kraj said the project was
OK, but that the Litovel building office had made a formal mistake
(again), so the whole process had to be redone. Then the neighbor
asked to have their own Hydro-Geolog statement, which again meant
that Krsnak and his hydro geologist had to comment on it....and
we're still waiting for a reply, and for 2nd year not having a
functioning system!
>
>
Add to this the time Krsnak has to spend on knowing the laws, his
office rent, communication costs...
>
All in all I can't complain about the price of the project.
>
>
Zdravim,
>
Ing. Max Vittrup Jensen
>
"Jen-Sen: Make it Reality"
>
Consultancy in sustainable engineering, planning and environment
>
585 15 20 10 - www.jen-sen.cz
>
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PermaLot Centre of Natural Building
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www.permalot.org
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Czech Republic
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On 05/01/2011 09:32, David Mach wrote:


Hello Max,

Thanks for your reply. Next week I plan to visit our Building Authority and 
WaterSupplement Authority, so I will see how they looks on this and it they 
even know that Composting toilets do exist.
I will ask them also about Reedbed cleaning system, what conditions for 
building such system they have. 
About half year ago I contacted Mr. Krsnak about Septik, but he said that 
project for Septic will cost about 10 000Kč, this is bloody expensive for me.

Cheers

David

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Od: "Max Vittrup Jensen" <Max AT permalot.org>
Komu: Ekologické stavebnictví <ekodum AT fsv.cvut.cz>
Datum: 18.12.2010 11:04
Předmět: Re: [Ekodum] Kompostovací WC

Ahoj David,

Only question we have ever received from building office is about which
type/brand of composting toilet it is.
I suggest you simply write a company name and website in your project, and
you should be fine, even if you make your own bucket system afterwards.

This said, it is important to show in the building project a good solution
for the grey water, either a zumpa, septik or korenovky.

Jarda Krsnak from jamiprojekt.cz can make this for you.

Zdravim,
Max
PermaLot Centre of Natural Building
www.permalot.org
www.permamax.blogspot.com

2010/12/18 David Mach <machdavid AT centrum.cz>




Ahoj,

jelikož jsem v posledních dnech narazil na kompostovací WC, zajímalo by mě,
jak je to se zákony - zda když použiji kompostovací WC, samovýrobu, tzv.
"Kbelík v truhle", kde se to vždy po vykonání potřeby zasype trochou pilin a
po naplnění kýble vysype na kompost (asi bych tam přidal i separátor moči,
ale to bych viděl), je jeho použití v pořádku vzhledem ke kolaudaci?

Nepoužil bych tedy žumpu, jen toto kompostovací WC a moč, pokud bych tam
udělal separátor, by šla spolu s ostatními vodami "šedé vody" do nějaké
rákosové nebo kořenové malé čističky.

Potřebuju na to nějaké speciální projekty nebo certifikáty? Nějak se mi
nedaří nic pořádného k tomu na internetu najít..

Děkuji

David

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